Twas thinking of runnin this bad boy

[stevey_6t9]

stats;

20
209lb
5'8
14%bf

2nd cycle:

Test prop: 75mg ed wks 1-10
Tren ace: 50mg ed wks 1-8


nolva 40/40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50/50
adex .25mg ed
prami .25mg eod
T3 50mcg ed wks 2-10

hcg 250iu 2x wk 1-10
B12 1mg ed
B6 10g ed
nicotinic acid 2g ed
melatonin 3mg ed
irbesartan 150mg ed

[stevey_6t9]

anything i shud change?

[Cyber]

What are you Goals ?. Isnt tren too much for 2nd cycle. There are alot of things that will give you better results. Plus everyone will point on Age too.

[t-gunz]

stevey very similar to my cycle.

is your for cutting too?

[stevey_6t9]

Originally Posted by Admin

What are you Goals ?. Isnt tren too much for 2nd cycle. There are alot of things that will give you better results. Plus everyone will point on Age too.

lean muscle mass, maybe a drop in 1 or 2% bf. Its a low dose of tren, i was thinking npp, but might save that for later. What would give me better results then tren?

Originally Posted by t-gunz

stevey very similar to my cycle.

is your for cutting too?

well not really, id like to gain maybe 10lbs and shed a couple of kgs of fat.

howd u rate rate tren?

[t-gunz]

its strong man. it does help drop fat though from when i ran it.

and i wasnt cutting then either.

[Red Barraca]

Looks good bro.

[Viktimize]

Originally Posted by stevey_6t9

stats;

20
209lb
5'8
14%bf

2nd cycle:

Test prop: 75mg ed wks 1-10
Tren ace: 50mg ed wks 1-8


nolva 40/40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50/50
adex .25mg ed
prami .25mg eod
T3 50mcg ed wks 2-10

hcg 250iu 2x wk 1-10
B12 1mg ed
B6 10g ed
nicotinic acid 2g ed
melatonin 3mg ed
irbesartan 150mg ed

Looks like a nice little cycle. Tren is amazing for lean gains and shredding some fat. A lot of people rag on tren for inexperienced users, but I think that is just due to the idea that you won't know how to deal with the sides. The sides do suck, but I don't think being experienced or not is going to make a difference, you just need to know what to expect.

-high blood pressure
-horrible night sweats
-if there was ever any truth to "roid rage", it would be because of Tren. It really affects your temper. So if you have a hard time keeping yourself in check, Tren is not for you.

Other than that, it looks decent. I don't see any need to run the extra week of PCT, but thats your call.

[Sigman roid]

Originally Posted by stevey_6t9

stats;

20
209lb
5'8
14%bf

2nd cycle:

Test prop: 75mg ed wks 1-10
Tren ace: 50mg ed wks 1-8


nolva 40/40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50/50
adex .25mg ed
prami .25mg eod
T3 50mcg ed wks 2-10

hcg 250iu 2x wk 1-10
B12 1mg ed
B6 10g ed
nicotinic acid 2g ed
melatonin 3mg ed
irbesartan 150mg ed

Looks fine stevey, as allready stated i would just run pct for 4 weeks instead of the 5 you got planned.

[stevey_6t9]

Originally Posted by Viktimize

Looks like a nice little cycle. Tren is amazing for lean gains and shredding some fat. A lot of people rag on tren for inexperienced users, but I think that is just due to the idea that you won't know how to deal with the sides. The sides do suck, but I don't think being experienced or not is going to make a difference, you just need to know what to expect.

-high blood pressure
-horrible night sweats
-if there was ever any truth to "roid rage", it would be because of Tren. It really affects your temper. So if you have a hard time keeping yourself in check, Tren is not for you.

Other than that, it looks decent. I don't see any need to run the extra week of PCT, but thats your call.

yeh i got irbestaran for high bp, night sweats will suck though, its coming to summer here and i have no air con

Originally Posted by SR

Looks fine stevey, as allready stated i would just run pct for 4 weeks instead of the 5 you got planned.

yeah initially i was think 6 weeks pct... reason being most studies of HPTA resotration use 6-8wk length pct studies, not 4 weeks..

i had a chat to swifto about it and we duno where the 4 week pct came about... i guess its better to be safe then sorry especially since im also young.

[Sigman roid]

Originally Posted by stevey_6t9

yeh i got irbestaran for high bp, night sweats will suck though, its coming to summer here and i have no air con



yeah initially i was think 6 weeks pct... reason being most studies of HPTA resotration use 6-8wk length pct studies, not 4 weeks..

i had a chat to swifto about it and we duno where the 4 week pct came about... i guess its better to be safe then sorry especially since im also young.

Well swifto knows his stuff so go with what he says,I aint got a clue where 4 weeks came from to be honest its just always the length i have followed.

[HawaiianPride.]

Got a baseline exam for blood work?

[stevey_6t9]

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

Got a baseline exam for blood work?

yup blood and saliva.

anyway wish me luck ill prob be making a log about it here or ar.

thanks for everyones help.

[Viktimize]

The reason for the length in swiftos studies, is because those studies arent done for a proper BB PCT. its based on just running 20mg nolva a day and nothing else. by running the standard clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20, you reduce the time required for HPTA restoration.


unless there is some new studies up that i missed?? i havent been on the boards much for the last couple months.

[stevey_6t9]

Originally Posted by Viktimize

The reason for the length in swiftos studies, is because those studies arent done for a proper BB PCT. its based on just running 20mg nolva a day and nothing else. by running the standard clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20, you reduce the time required for HPTA restoration.


unless there is some new studies up that i missed?? i havent been on the boards much for the last couple months.

they were done for hypogondism, at the end of the day HPTA shutdown is HPTA shutdown regardless. My last pct was 6 wks long and i recovered fine.

[t-gunz]

did you start yet mate?

[stevey_6t9]

Originally Posted by t-gunz

did you start yet mate?

im pinning in about 3 hrs. if i die t-gunz, you can have my tren and computer

[t-gunz]

sounds like a deal.

keep us posted on your results brother

[t-gunz]

hows the cycle going stevey?